[…] And in terms of Russian sabotage attacks?
There are reports that Sweden has also been mentioned in these plannings. We have confirmed that we have seen it. No activities have been conducted. But we are well aware that Sweden is a potential target for that kind of sabotage activity.
Could something like that rise to the level of invoking Article 5 of the NATO treaty, asking allies to come to your defense?
Could something like that rise to the level of invoking Article 5 of the NATO treaty, asking allies to come to your defense?
I don’t think anybody knows yet. There are interesting discussions going on. Article 5 was created for a situation where you really know it: Now it’s war, now it’s not war. I think this is an ongoing discussion in NATO right now: How to handle these grey zones between real peace and real conflict.
You have no clear understanding of where to draw that line?
I don’t think any country really has that any longer.[…]
Like China.
Yes, China. We need to realize the global security situation is much broader today. You simply can’t say the Pacific does not concern us [in Europe]. For reasons of principles, and for U.S. reasons, Europe needs to be more committed to the Pacific. That’s at least been my preaching. Läs intervjun